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		<title>By: Another Week of GW News, October 28, 2012 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Another Week of GW News, October 28, 2012 &#8211; A Few Things Ill Considered]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2012 13:32:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] 2012/10/22: LoE: The Antarctic Ocean needs your help [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: The Antarctic Ocean needs your help &#171; Learning from Dogs</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[The Antarctic Ocean needs your help &#171; Learning from Dogs]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 07:03:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[[...] post appeared first on Lack of Environment on Monday; and is re-published here today with the permission  (and active editorial co-operation!) of [...]]]></description>
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		<title>By: Martin Lack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Lack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:52:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Job done.  My pet Adelie penguin says thank you.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Job done.  My pet Adelie penguin says thank you.</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Handover</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Paul Handover]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 13:02:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Martin,  Would love you to republish this in full on Learning from Dogs this coming Wednesday, the 24th.  Have sent you an email. Paul]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Martin,  Would love you to republish this in full on Learning from Dogs this coming Wednesday, the 24th.  Have sent you an email. Paul</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Lack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Lack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 08:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks for connecting all the dots.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for connecting all the dots.</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Lack</title>
		<link>http://lackofenvironment.wordpress.com/2012/10/22/the-antarctic-ocean-needs-your-help/#comment-5054</link>
		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Lack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 07:52:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Patrice.  It is a tricky one, I know, but I think Garrett Hardin&#039;s &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.sciencemag.org/site/feature/misc/webfeat/sotp/commons.xhtml&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;em&gt;Tragedy of the Commons&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/a&gt; analogy explains all.  On the other hand, I am aware that some libertarians claim that it is the lack of ownership that leads to problems.  To me, this is reminiscent of Roger Scruton&#039;s attempt to claim that the 18th century British aristocracy (the only ones who could vote) were protectors of the countryside.  No, I am sorry, Roger, we must learn to collectively restrain ourselves; and stop behaving like Easter Islanders trying to out-do each other to be the one to cut down the last tree.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Patrice.  It is a tricky one, I know, but I think Garrett Hardin&#8217;s <a href="http://www.sciencemag.org/site/feature/misc/webfeat/sotp/commons.xhtml" rel="nofollow"><em>Tragedy of the Commons</em></a> analogy explains all.  On the other hand, I am aware that some libertarians claim that it is the lack of ownership that leads to problems.  To me, this is reminiscent of Roger Scruton&#8217;s attempt to claim that the 18th century British aristocracy (the only ones who could vote) were protectors of the countryside.  No, I am sorry, Roger, we must learn to collectively restrain ourselves; and stop behaving like Easter Islanders trying to out-do each other to be the one to cut down the last tree.</p>
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		<title>By: pendantry</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[pendantry]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2012 01:25:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks very much for the heads-up on this one, Martin. I have signed the Avaaz petition to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_southern_ocean_5/?bSkdncb&amp;v=18906&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;save the Antarctic Ocean&lt;/a&gt;.

Unsurprisingly, the other pole of our planet is also under threat, and &lt;a href=&quot;http://pendantry.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/an-arctic-for-all-mankind/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Greenpeace has launched an initiative to try to protect that one, too&lt;/a&gt;.

I would also urge anyone reading this who hasn&#039;t yet seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://endoftheline.com/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;The End Of The Line&lt;/a&gt; to do so -- preferably before it&#039;s too late...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks very much for the heads-up on this one, Martin. I have signed the Avaaz petition to <a href="http://www.avaaz.org/en/save_the_southern_ocean_5/?bSkdncb&amp;v=18906" rel="nofollow">save the Antarctic Ocean</a>.</p>
<p>Unsurprisingly, the other pole of our planet is also under threat, and <a href="http://pendantry.wordpress.com/2012/10/21/an-arctic-for-all-mankind/" rel="nofollow">Greenpeace has launched an initiative to try to protect that one, too</a>.</p>
<p>I would also urge anyone reading this who hasn&#8217;t yet seen <a href="http://endoftheline.com/" rel="nofollow">The End Of The Line</a> to do so &#8212; preferably before it&#8217;s too late&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Patrice Ayme</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Patrice Ayme]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2012 23:49:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Good article. I had been thinking to also amplify the message.

It&#039;s a general problem. The Senegalese always depended very heavily on fish for their protein intake. But then fishes disappeared. Senegalese starved. an accord was found, the fishing fleet went off the coast. The miraculous fisheries are back. In this case common sense worked, because the case was particularly egregious.

But, overall, the oceans are dying. The exploitation mentality is in power: kill, or be killed. Right now they kill the krill, while the biosphere is slowly strangled. But, tomorrow, the exploiters will throw smokes, mirrors, and wars our way. so indeed, polar oceans ought to be protected. because of slower metabolism there, slower chemistry, damage is much harder to fix.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good article. I had been thinking to also amplify the message.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a general problem. The Senegalese always depended very heavily on fish for their protein intake. But then fishes disappeared. Senegalese starved. an accord was found, the fishing fleet went off the coast. The miraculous fisheries are back. In this case common sense worked, because the case was particularly egregious.</p>
<p>But, overall, the oceans are dying. The exploitation mentality is in power: kill, or be killed. Right now they kill the krill, while the biosphere is slowly strangled. But, tomorrow, the exploiters will throw smokes, mirrors, and wars our way. so indeed, polar oceans ought to be protected. because of slower metabolism there, slower chemistry, damage is much harder to fix.</p>
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