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	<title>Comments on: Nuclear, wind and wave power chiefs in joint appeal on green energy</title>
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		<title>By: Martin Lack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Lack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:46:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Lionel.  That is, then, yet another incidence of the Law of Unintended Consequences...]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Lionel.  That is, then, yet another incidence of the Law of Unintended Consequences&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Martin Lack</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Martin Lack]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 09 Nov 2012 13:42:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[Thanks Schalk.  I am not sure how I missed them but will now take a look.  I am sorry to hear you do not think Dr Lovins&#039; ideas are feasible. Over at &lt;em&gt;Climate Denial Crock of the Week&lt;/em&gt;, Peter Sinclair would clearly disagree with you - in &lt;a href=&quot;http://climatecrocks.com/2012/11/09/in-sandys-wake-a-nissan-powered-fridge/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the latest of his &lt;em&gt;Renewable Energy Solution of the Month&lt;/em&gt; videos&lt;/a&gt;.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks Schalk.  I am not sure how I missed them but will now take a look.  I am sorry to hear you do not think Dr Lovins&#8217; ideas are feasible. Over at <em>Climate Denial Crock of the Week</em>, Peter Sinclair would clearly disagree with you &#8211; in <a href="http://climatecrocks.com/2012/11/09/in-sandys-wake-a-nissan-powered-fridge/" rel="nofollow">the latest of his <em>Renewable Energy Solution of the Month</em> videos</a>.</p>
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		<title>By: Lionel A</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 18:12:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[And the race for fracked gas has dangers unanticipated by most as raised in this article &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.desmogblog.com/2012/11/06/hurricane-sandy-s-aftermath-fracking-adds-headaches&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;In Hurricane Sandy&#039;s Aftermath, Fracking Adds to Headaches&lt;/a&gt; to add to all the other problems with this dangerous process.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>And the race for fracked gas has dangers unanticipated by most as raised in this article <a href="http://www.desmogblog.com/2012/11/06/hurricane-sandy-s-aftermath-fracking-adds-headaches" rel="nofollow">In Hurricane Sandy&#8217;s Aftermath, Fracking Adds to Headaches</a> to add to all the other problems with this dangerous process.</p>
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		<title>By: Schalk</title>
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		<dc:creator><![CDATA[Schalk]]></dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Nov 2012 15:36:01 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[I also like Dr Lovins&#039; idea, but one has to admit that the objective chances of that happening are slim to none. A rapid reduction in fossil fuel usage (while Asia keeps on growing) will require massive reductions in energy use in the West and, well, I&#039;m afraid that our current cultural/economic mindset makes the required large scale reductions in consumption and the widespread focus on energy efficiency downright impossible. 

Cheap and abundant energy is therefore a complete prerequisite and I&#039;m afraid that this is not going to come from solar and wind within the required timeframe - not even close. I think I posted these links on LfD some time ago, but I wrote two pages to outline the great challenges facing renewables which you might find interesting: http://oneinabillionblog.com/laws/the-second-law-of-thermodynamics/ and http://oneinabillionblog.com/laws/additional-challenges-facing-renewable-energy/. I think this information is an essential part of the objective reality required to successfully build our planet&#039;s energy future.]]></description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I also like Dr Lovins&#8217; idea, but one has to admit that the objective chances of that happening are slim to none. A rapid reduction in fossil fuel usage (while Asia keeps on growing) will require massive reductions in energy use in the West and, well, I&#8217;m afraid that our current cultural/economic mindset makes the required large scale reductions in consumption and the widespread focus on energy efficiency downright impossible. </p>
<p>Cheap and abundant energy is therefore a complete prerequisite and I&#8217;m afraid that this is not going to come from solar and wind within the required timeframe &#8211; not even close. I think I posted these links on LfD some time ago, but I wrote two pages to outline the great challenges facing renewables which you might find interesting: <a href="http://oneinabillionblog.com/laws/the-second-law-of-thermodynamics/" rel="nofollow">http://oneinabillionblog.com/laws/the-second-law-of-thermodynamics/</a> and <a href="http://oneinabillionblog.com/laws/additional-challenges-facing-renewable-energy/" rel="nofollow">http://oneinabillionblog.com/laws/additional-challenges-facing-renewable-energy/</a>. I think this information is an essential part of the objective reality required to successfully build our planet&#8217;s energy future.</p>
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