A blog on the politics and psychology underlying the denial of all our environmental problems
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With my thanks to 350.org, The Great Spirit, and Idle no More, this is not the Serenity Prayer as I recall it:
Written by Martin Lack
31 January 2013 at 17:32
Posted in Civil disorder, Climate Change, Environment
Tagged with 350.org, Civil disorder, Idle No More, The Great Spirit
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Tolerance of the unacceptable is unacceptable. It is criminal when too much is at stake. And what could be more than Earth?
31 January 2013 at 19:37
Thanks Patrice. Maybe if more countries had governments that were so clearly ideologically-blinded to the consequences of the policies they pursue – as is that ‘in power’ in Canada – we would have greater levels of popular activism in the World as a whole?
31 January 2013 at 19:55
Well, I used to think the same, long ago.
For example that the coming of Reagan would make the USA revolt. Instead, it’s the opposite that happened; democrats, led by BO, now adulate Reagan. Hitler (I know you consider pathological to use Nazism as a paradigm) laughed about this sort of things. He said:”Our opponents believe that the youth will rise against us. But we own the youth.” Namely, propaganda works, and the bigger, the better. Sad to admit, but the truth.
In any case the USA is much more right wing now than when Reagan appeared.
2 February 2013 at 08:03
Au contraire! On this occasion at least, your reference to Hitler’s manipulation of people and facts seems legitimate (as opposed to contrived). However, one can very easily overdo it; and so devalue its currency!
2 February 2013 at 09:36
Tolerance of the unacceptable is unacceptable.
Agreed. If there’s one thing I really cannot stand, it’s intolerance! :)
3 February 2013 at 14:01
Dear Pendantry: Sigh. Not exactly my point, quite the opposite! See my incoming essay “Lincoln, etc.” that will be out within an hour or so. Lincoln was great, precisely because he did not tolerate certain things.
3 February 2013 at 17:19
Dear Patrice: Sigh. I fear we are divided by a common tongue. Humour is like freedom, in that it is a difficult concept; it is not logical.
3 February 2013 at 17:44
Thanks, P. If you missed it, you may also like:
Is having an open mind the problem? (7 February 2012)…
3 February 2013 at 14:05
I didn’t miss it, Martin. I didn’t stay for the end of the ludicrous troll fest, though.
3 February 2013 at 17:51
Oh yeah, sorry!. Patrice has now read it too though, which is great. You did well to skip the troll-feeding session. I am afraid that my eternal optimism (that drives me to believe no-one is “unreachable”) means that I keep falling head-first into that particular cess pit.
3 February 2013 at 18:36
I’ve experienced many trolls in the past, but it’s still hard to tell them apart. I tend to walk away from a ‘discussion’ when I get accused of not having addressed the other party’s point ‘x’, when (in my mind, granted) I have covered it as well as I believe I can.
In much the same way as an establishment upholder’s ‘terrist’ can be an oppressed person’s freedom fighter, one person’s truth-seeker is another’s polemicist (though I’m not even sure that’s the right word… perhaps the word I seek is delingpilesophist?)
3 February 2013 at 20:20
I missed it! ;-)! Indeed having an open mind goes only that far! At some point, one has to go to war!
3 February 2013 at 17:20
I am very glad to bring it to anyone’s attention! Forgive my unintended ambiguity (I overlooked the fact that both Pendantry and Patrice both start with a ‘P’).
3 February 2013 at 18:33
As Jules pointed out to me some time ago, the meaning of the word sophist has been inverted since it originally appeared in ancient Greece.
4 February 2013 at 10:21
Reblogged this on Standard Climate.
31 January 2013 at 21:09
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